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@carolen The right and left hand of global dbags.

@inscius @carolen

"After 20 years the left have had their day then it is the rights turn, and after another 20 years they change again"

Guess who said that 100 years ago?

EvolLove

@inscius @carolen

None other than Adolf Hitler. He called it as soon as it was invented.

I don't remember the exact quotation. I was just very surprised. Since I had always believed that he was crazy and evil.

He also banned drunk driving :pepe_tard: Apparently no one thought about that before. And smoking on public transportation. and animal abuse and experiments.

But he was against the left and the right thought it to be a scam.

@EvolLove @carolen Interesting quote. Cynical. Fascism and socialism are siblings. And his party was national socialism.
The left originally was the anti church side in the french parliament. And to me it seems many who call themselves left start out from anti-religion (in reality mostly anti-Christian) position rather than caring about the "oppressed". Conservatism is a rather wide concept. Fascists are not that, they are modernists, like the commies are.

@inscius @EvolLove @carolen totalitarians don’t typically like each other.

@justinerickson @inscius @carolen

that's exactly what I thought my whole life until last weak.

Even our idea of fascism is told by the "Marxists" there's nothing similar about communism and fascism.

Everything we have been told have been a lie.

Take culture for example. Before NSD a minority controlled all media and all perverted everything. Exactly as Disney today.

Under NSD Germany produced many great movies. It was not totalitarian at all.

We have to unlearn before we can learn.

@justinerickson @inscius @carolen

And NSD was Christian. And built churches. The communists burned churches, but for some reason never burned any synagogue. Funny how that happened?

NSD also inspired private gun owning and gun fans ranges. So that people could protects themselves.

Their only crime was to kick out the international bankers and print their own money.

Should familiar? Gaddafi? Assad?

Well well well. BRICS might have the right idea after all.

@EvolLove @justinerickson @inscius @carolen

Fascism and NS were inspired by Communism and recruited Communists

Their problem is that they all use a big state solution

What we need is subtler and needs to be even more ethnonationalist

The third world wants to kill us all

@amerika @carolen @EvolLove @justinerickson if you by NSD mean NSDAP they were not Christian, even if many who saw themselves as Christians voted for them. There were several leading nazis who admired islam more than Christianity. Some dabbled in the occult. Nazism was more pagan. Nothing Christian about Blut und Boden.

@amerika @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

Fascism and NSD was not at all inspired by communism.

Anyone claiming that know nothing about fascism or national socialism.

I used to say the same thing just 2 weeks ago. Because I had never looked into it further than the normie opinion

Communists where walking around killing people at random and burning churches. and legalized pedophilia

Fascism was about preserving the nations great culture

NSD was about nationalizing the currency

@EvolLove @amerika @carolen @inscius
Socialism predates communism.
Nazis and communists are both inspired by socialism and they fought bitterly.

Communists fight with each other too in order to decide who should have power. But not while they don’t have power. When they don’t have power, they preach tolerance.

Nazis did the exact same crap. Here you go citizen. Empower yourself and help us take our country back. Ok we have power now, pipe down and show me your papers since you didn’t salute

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @inscius

1/2

NSD redefined Socialism. This is not a matter of opinion it is just facts.

Like I said, I argued identical with U until 2 weeks ago.

WW1-2 was not about ideologies fighting each other. It was all about the Belfour Declaration. And it was about breaking the German industry on the global market. Not 1 but 2 times.

And it took all of the combined power of Communists and Capitalists to do it.

Everything we thought we knew about Nazism is a lie.

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @inscius

Everything we have been told about history, everything including Germany are lies.

Germany kicked out Rothschild and took control over their own currency and that is how they were able to rise from starvation and unemployment.

And that is why the international banking organizations started the war against Germany. That is the only reason for all the hate against Germany and NSD.

Please compare to all the BS about Muammar al-Gaddafi. just 13 Yrs ago

@EvolLove @justinerickson @carolen @inscius

Supply-side economics is inherently about national production, and this interferes with the needs of international shareholders.

@amerika @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

Supply and demand economy sounds a lot like the free market to me.

The whole point was to not have international bankers or media or shareholders.

They had this crazy idea that they would be allowed to govern their own nation.

And exactly who are these international shareholders? Oligarchs. International Bankers. That owns and control our money, our media, our food, our medicine.

They have nearly total global control and it is constantly war.

@EvolLove @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

There's two basic economic approaches...

* Demand-side: the value of money comes from its attraction to borrowers
* Supply-side: the value of money comes from the production of the nation

The Right-wing parts of the NSDAP included ethno-nationalism, supply-side economics, eugenics, and nature preserves.
@EvolLove @justinerickson @carolen @inscius

Hitler wanted Germany off demand-side economics and back on supply-side.

Other than that, he faced the usual problems of socialism.

@amerika @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

I also find it remarkable that Germany was on the brink of destruction, in the hands of their enemies. They had UK, France, Russia, International banking and USA against them.

Communists had already infiltrated Germany. It was only a matter of time, a country on the brink of extermination.

The worst possible situation thinkable and he managed to turn all that around. That is almost unbelievable.

Desperate times. We can not compare to today.

@EvolLove @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

Germany had a Communist revolution that killed or maimed a lot of people.

However, the problem with Fascism and National Socialism is that they follow the French Revolution model.

There's only one way out of this quagmire, and it is most definitely NOT democracy.

When we add up all of the losses, the fascists and national socialists will come out as benevolent compared to democracy and socialism.
@justinerickson @EvolLove @carolen @inscius

I think the Nazis had much better intent than the socialists, and it showed.

Hitler wanted to make a paradise for his people, then got trapped in WW1 pt 2.

However, systems based on strong state power are unstable by nature.

@amerika @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

Well I have not come that far yet. I am listening to a lot of material. I am maybe 25 hours in and I probably have about 1000 hours of reading, listening watching before i will be able to fully understand this.

So far this is extremely interesting.

So U might be right. I just want to find out by reading and hearing what they themselves actually said. Because I have heard others speak about them my whole life.

@EvolLove @carolen @inscius @justinerickson

Since people are going to get in their suggestions, here are mine: read "The Republic" and Francis Galton.

@amerika @carolen @EvolLove @inscius
Much better intent…. Like concentration camps, extermination of children, self identified propagandists, racial hierarchies, eugenics and crazy medical experiments, mandated re-education camps, confiscation of food, personal property and goods, constant surveillance… oh ya. Their heart was in the right place… sounds like they just wanted paradise for all.

You two have drank the kool aid.

@justinerickson @carolen @EvolLove @inscius

Racila hierarchies and eugenics are positive things.

They restored private property and supply-side economics.

The point was to separate intent from results, which fits with what I said about big state systems.

There's only one real solution there and it ain't anarchy or dictatorship.

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @inscius

I can see Ur point
It is not like I am unable to draw the same conclusion as U do

I thought, said and wrote the exact same thing as U do up and until 2 weeks ago

Now I am starting to question everything I thought I knew. Because I am learning a lot of hard facts about countless crimes against humanity and those behind it are also behind everything I ever thought I knew about National Socialist Program

I might end up going full circle
Time will tell

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @inscius

But I will make U this promise.

If I end up realizing that the National Socialist Program ended with all the bad things U listed.

I will not make some retarded statement like, "yeah but that wasn't real National Socialism"

If it failed it failed.

Until that. I find it very interesting to see history told from a different point of view.

The identical similarities to what is happening now are stunning.

"You cannot design a Civilization, the best you can hope for is to survive it".

This is why the patterns are repeated, as the powers are trying hard to design a Civilization. It always fell flat, and sometimes it ends with torturing and killing millions, it ends with unimaginable suffering.

The best solution is to find those few individual and hang them before their little experiment ends in genocide or worse.

@amerika @carolen @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson National Socialists aka NSM aka Nazis are all the same. I don’t understand how your separating them. I had to live next to literal Nazis for three years. They had three kids, one deaf but they wouldn’t let him wear his implants because they couldn’t replace them supposedly. They lived on food stamps, welfare and plasma donations. A lieutenant in the NSM is their best friend. He’s 50 now &still lives with his parents. Agent orange exposed dad.

@amerika @carolen @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson they ride around town on bikes because the proud white father refuses to work. The leaders of all groups are Federal agents & the followers are easily deceived often poor w/ low IQ. Y’all should check out Grand Theft World on rumble. They break down the global connections to ww2 and hitler & also how they all signed onto the creation of Isreal. They used hitlers actions to motivate Jew to move while slaughtering Palestinians for their land.

@DameAtomicGinger @carolen @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

I would say 50% of the far-Right are federal agents or worse, informants.

I kind of like the creation of Israel. I think it makes sense to return Jews -- an Arab/Greek/Italian/French hybrid -- to their ethnic homeland.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

I have yet to see this far right I hear so much about.

The Jews never had their own country. Neither does any other religion.

Jews lived in Palestine before the creation of Israel. Jews were sent to Palestine from Germany before the creation of Israel.

Two World War where white Christian men killed each other was fought for the Belfoure Declaration. To create Israel.

Does it still make sense?

@EvolLove @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

"Far-Right" simply means race/class-aware Right.

Jews living in Israel makes sense to me. Ethnically, that's the mix one would expect to be at that geographical location, so it will be created.

Then again, I view Jews biologically not mystically. They are simply White people with a Korean grandfather and Ethiopian great-grandfather, ethnically speaking.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

Historically Jews have never had their own country.

Not even ethnicity defines borders or nations.

All humans on the planet have moved around at one point or another.
does it make sense to move people to were their ancestors lived 5.000 years ago?

Most of middle east was once white. So where to send all the Arabs? Egypt?

Israel is in the middle of Arab nations.
Don't think that there will ever be peace between the Arabs and Jews

@EvolLove @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

In the middle east, where Asia and Europe and North Africa meet, there are always going to be race-mixed people with the same percentages of the root races as Jews and Arabs IMHO.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

Probably. I am just saying that at one time the Middle east was Christian.

And I am not totally sure but I believe that most of the middle east was white or at least more white than it is now.

The Ottoman empire changed a lot of ethnicity. And also did few white genocides. Real ones.

@EvolLove @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

No doubt, but those were part of a larger process.

Europe has been fighting off Semitic and Asiatic incursions for many centuries now.

It took democracy to invite them in, though!

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

Europe has some kind of sick urge for self-destruction. I don't know where it came from. Maybe a symptom of old, crumbling cultures who no longer have the energy to resist?

Kind of like tired, too old parents who just say "yes" to anything their children tell them to do, thereby causing enormous harm in the long run?

@h4890 @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

Schopenhauer had a good riff on this.

Those who succeed will always envy and idealize those who have simpler lives.

Whether Bohemians, hipsters, Negro jazz, the Arabian Nights, etc. Europeans have always idealized the Other.

Because being European and successful is stressful. Social mobility just made this much worse...

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

What!? I consider myself somewhat successful and I most definitely do _not_ envy those who have simpler lives.

Perhaps he is talking about the billionaire level of successful people? That might make a little bit more sense, but I doubt it.

@h4890 @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

No, I think it's the middle classes as usual.

They see themselves going off to jobs and paying for insurance and church and red tape and... well, life in a hut just looks much mentally easier.

So they always idealize the Other.
@h4890 @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

Naturally, the obvious argument here is Emersonian... simplify, simplify, simplify.

Yet this is what ordinary humans refuse to do.

@EvolLove
If you are going to spend time hearing Nazis tell their side of the story, you should do the same with the Jews and a good place to start is with the pogroms in the Russian Empire. Perhaps, just like you and the Germans, they were concerned about everyone conspiring to get rid of them and their religion. And just like the Germans after WWI, cats do crazy things when backed into a corner.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

Did I fail to mention that I have been hearing the Jews version and only the Jews version my whole life.

And their story is falling apart at every angle so no. I will not be listening to any more stories from Jews. I have heard plenty. I have believed exactly what U just wrote my whole life.

Perhaps it is U who should listen to what Hitler actually said and did. It might change Ur perspective too

Nazis is a slur invented by a Jew

@EvolLove @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

Well for me, I watched Europa and all it does is it highlights how Germans felt attacked and threatened by Jews. But it does nothing to explain how the Jews were attacked and threatened by the Russian empire and all over Europe.

Neither of them dealt with the world being against them very well. But as you have already stated, what would you expect from people that were getting starved and murdered and culturally sabotaged.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius

Or people thinking they are “chosen” above others simply by ethnic birth right causes unjust resentment, reactions, and conflict, which is exactly what both sides did. And it created a framing in their minds that justified stupid evil crap.

@justinerickson @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius

Every healthy group believes it is chosen or at least special in some way

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius
Ethnically superior? Then they are all wrong except for one, in theory. But a group can’t be anything other than complete assholes to everyone else (assholes are inferior) if they don’t see that fallacy.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

I don't think that I am chosen by God or that "my people" are chosen by God or any of that.

I think that is a sign of madness.

Same as anyone speaking of the ends justifies the means. That is a sign of maniac behavior.

People thinking like that are those who end up killing millions.

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

Until this day prominent Jews are still talking about how the white man should be exterminated.

And they did that long time before Adolf Hitler even became a member of the National Socialist Program.

Don't worry about the fact that they manipulated UK, France, Russia and USA to rage war against Germany not one time but 2 times. 2 World wars millions of our brothers killed each other.

And they still hate us. Because we still around

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

Accuse Ur enemy of what U urself are doing. Is a page from the Communist playbook.

Everything we thought the Germans did against the Jews were in fact done by the Jews to the Germans.

Germany were backed into a corner by the internationals Jewish banking elites and they had total control over media.

Did U really watch all 12 episodes or only 25 minutes of the first episode?

Because I am only on episode 4 so far
It will take weeks

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

This idea that Jews were attacked and threatened by the Russian empire and all over Europe.

Sounds like it is just some Jewish propaganda to cover up their own crimes. Since they always accuse their enemies of what they themselves are doing.

Jewish bankers and Capitalists even caused the great famine in 1930s USA.

Don't want people to hate Ur people?
But U still want total control over the worlds banking system?

@justinerickson @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

The Jews did the Marxist revolution in Russia for one reason and one reason only. To exterminate Aryan Capitalism and the Tsar family and to help them take total control over the worlds banking system.

They have killed nearly 100 million of us but we are so brainwashed that we can not connect the dots. Because we don't dare, not even as a thought in our heads criticize the Jews.

It causes cognitive dissonance, so we invent reasons.

@justinerickson @EvolLove @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius

Perhaps diversity always fails, and gypsies, Saami, and Jews were just the most visible diversity in Europe.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

Enemies infiltrating should not get to define the movement of anything.

@EvolLove @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

Agreed, however:

1. National Socialism is fundamentally unstable because it is a hybrid. It combines the Jacobin state with nationalism, and this introduces constant tension.
2. While the National Socialists had some good ideas, like the Communists had a few too, this instability means that National Socialism is a threat to the volk.
3. Most people accept that SOME of what Hitler was on about was true, but want to avoid the system of National Socialism
4. Consequently, National Socialism attracts higher-than-average degrees of mental unwellness, a lot like Communism and Christianity.

But yeah, the feds just need a whipping boy. Ask Vicki Weaver!

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

What was the good ideas from Communism?

I have never heard one.

@EvolLove @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

Communism is a terrible idea.

Stalin was fairly adept at some things.

A lot of their science was good.

They understood how to control large groups of idiots pretty well.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @inscius @justinerickson

Communism is a terrible idea. Yes I agree.

Stalin understood how to use fear and hunger to control people. Yes.

The Science done by Scientists who was working under a Communist leadership was sometimes great. I would not aspire that to Communism though. I live in a Socialist country. I would not praise Socialism for any of my creative work.

If by controlling we include famine then yes. Rather Evil than genius IMHO

@inscius @amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @justinerickson

In short

Communists intentionally manufactured the largest Famines (plural) known to man.

The National Socialist German Workers' Party lifted their country out of Famine.

I do not even know how anyone could say that these are the same or in any way resembles each other.

Yet I used to think so
Then at some point recently, the noticing of basically nothing adding up made me change my mind
Call it a reaction to cognitive dissonance.

@EvolLove @inscius @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @justinerickson

Communism also simply cannot feed people. It's part of the idea of taking from the productive to give to the unproductive; after awhile, the productive bail out on doing more than the minimum. They get tired of being abused by narcissists.

@amerika @carolen @DameAtomicGinger @EvolLove @inscius @justinerickson

This is the truth and easily shown and proven by modern science.

Yet many people still insist on believing in this flawed religion.