Conservatives now want to blame mass shootings on big pharma. That most shooters are on depression meds etc. I don't know that that's true and if it was, is the argument that society and these people would be overall better off without the drugs? I assume they'd never support banning people on these meds from having access to the guns. 2A etc.
Anyway, it's the guns that make somebody who'd otherwise stab a bunch of people, much more efficient killing machines.
@wjmaggos You're right. I think we need to eliminate access to guns by the gang members. I'm opened to suggestions.
they do it pretty well in other countries by lessening everyone's access to guns.
but maybe in the US we could do it differently. mandate that every gun is insured for damages caused. call them militias. private entities that oversaw all purchases and tracked them. the govt wouldn't know where the guns were, only that the militia was responsible for it. if they were needed to end a federal dictatorship, the legal responsibility would go out the window anyway.
@wjmaggos They do what well in other countries? Be specific? They take guns away from gangs? Criminals? What countries?
so we should be able to buy cyanide, poison gas and nukes on Amazon? lots of shit is banned. the real world is a complex mix of smart and dumb laws made with good and bad intentions, imperfect enforcement, different levels of demand etc. decent people with different experiences and worldviews. it's not just megalomaniacs who reject your libertarian utopian bullshit. get off your high horse. progress is made with good faith conversation and compromising.
you started the fight. a debate about changing laws (which is what free people are supposed to do) became megalomaniacs wanting to ban everything. I assume because you're a libertarian absolutist who sees slippery slopes everywhere.
my militia proposal above is a compromise. I want more gun control but I'm also trying to accommodate gun rights arguments. that should be obvious. but it's ignored. you jump in full asshole. what are you here for?
@wjmaggos Despite of how you paint yourself with your oversimplified definition of empathy, we established that you're just an authoritarian looking for your version of a "compromise". Infringing on people to push your childish version of the world. The way you ignore questions is the way you conveniently ignore reality. Because in your world reality doesn't matter. Again..... how do we take the guns away from the gangs?