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ScoWer22

Pretty much covers it in "arguments, i.e. trying to reason with bleeding hearts.

Not their country. Unless they have something special to offer we (voters) want to pay for. What's happening is not that.

@ScoWer22

Until you consider that a lot of the early settlers wouldn't have survived at all without assistance from the first nations, whom they ultimately ended bleeding dry of resources and then subjugating. It's why Metis exist in Canada for one thing, because the French and Gaelic traders took native wives both to facilitate trade with the native civilisations and so they had a hope in hell of surviving in the local environment whatsoever. Even fundamental infrastructure like the TransCanada highway couldn't have been developed without illegally confiscating treaty payments held in trust by the federal government (aka: Hudson's Bay company).

@toiletpaper
You make valid points. About colonizing and then subjugating. But say nothing about what was lost besides the land in the trade. Like they got civilization, science, goods in trade that improved their lives. And most tribes blew it all for hootch. remember that part yet?

@ScoWer22

That thing about the drunken indian has a couple nuances you presumably refuse to grasp. Firstly, they genetically lack the enzymes for breaking down alcohol, as it wasn't part of their cultures. Secondly, anyone who went through the shit they did would have PTSD and intergenerational trauma. You see the same phenomenon among a lot of military vets. Having a lack of compassion and understanding about that situation isn't a good look on you.

As to civilisation and science, etc, they had very sophisticated agriculture, intercontinental trade networks, and astronomical and mathematical knowledge which is still considered revolutionary even today. Europeans weren't that much more advanced at anything but warfare. It says more about where we placed the emphasis than it does about some supposed "civilisation". Not to mention that the constitution of both USA and Canada were heavily modelled after that of the Haudenosaunee confederacy, which remains the oldest extant constitutional democracy on earth. I'm guessing you don't know any of that because you only listen to racists on the internet without ever actually doing any study of the history or speaking to the actual people concerned whatsoever.

@toiletpaper Again, you make many valid points.

But i lack the characters to express myself or defend my views on this platform.

I have probably read more books and views and pages on the very subject we speak than you. But @eriner has some set character limit requiring brevity.

I don't think you want to trade and compare CV's or personal bookshelves with me.

But you can compare your member size to whomever gives you the space to "dominate".

But you do make good points. We could talk.

@ScoWer22 @eriner

Fwiw, the character limit is why I don't use my account on NAS. Apart from that, I'm not too interested in comparing penis lengths with you. You can do that with your existing circle jerk. FYI, this isn't some kind of "noble savage" nonsense either. I'm well aware of both sides. But this Eurocentric "we brought civilisation" is a load of retarded bullshit. If it has to be forced on unwilling people through violence and deceit, it's not the sort of civilisation I'd want to be part of. And for what? So you can brag about having fancy gadgets? lol. Fuck that. There's more to being a civilised people than some techno faggot bukkake bullshit.
@amerika @ScoWer22

Maybe that is myth. There's only one citation from an eye witness that suggests the story, apart from the reports from indigenous people themselves. But the fact remains that genocide was intended, and continues to be practised against native people today. There's no credible way to deflect from that. It's simply a fact.
@toiletpaper @ScoWer22

You are projecting here.

The colonists never intended genocide and were peaceful at first.

Then they encountered the third world.

Of course, had genocide been intended, it would have been 100% legitimate after Europeans' last encounter with Mongolians.
@amerika @ScoWer22

Mongolia didn't exist when these people came across the land bridge. If I used your same criterion for identity, you'd be an African bud.
@toiletpaper @ScoWer22

Not true; the Mongolian people existed even if a named modern state did not.
@amerika @ScoWer22

Another example. In this case showing how the government of Canada talks out both sides of it's mouth. They do a nice little dance about truth and reconciliation, and decry Russia's supposed invasion of separatist Donbas, while they continue their decades long corporate invasion of a sovereign first nation that the supreme court has already ruled is beyond their jurisdiction.

https://youtu.be/D3R5Uy5O_Ds
@toiletpaper @ScoWer22

The "first nations" were never nations, just warring tribes of immigrants from Mongolia.

Everything about them is fake.