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@coolboymew Weren't there also issues with localizes also fucking up the subs as well? .. also some anime hires really good English voice actors: Steam Boy, Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Gundam W .. you can argue Bebop is what brought a lot of people into the anime world. I'll sometimes listen to a series with subs one ep, dubs the next, to get a feeling of which voice actors I like better.