New filings reveal FBI authorized use of DEADLY FORCE when they raided Mar-a-Lago
But hey, those records Joe never had the authority for were sitting in his Vette.
Ffs the hypocrisy and lies.
“Frame Trunp” lol
It’s hard not to feel like most of his fanboys knew nothing about him before he ran for president. He’s a lifelong conman and proud of it. Did no one read his book? I did in the 90s and could tell this dude is the Steven Seagal of business.
Why defend this guy? There are plenty of conservative politicians who aren’t total pieces of shit with awful track records. It’s surreal that you elected a reality TV star to the highest office in the country and now you want to do it again.
@glimse @BearOfaTime Let's not pretend that the #MSM would villainize any conservative republican who won the #GOP nomination. If #MarcoRubio, #RandPaul, #BenCarson, heck anyone other than #JohnKasich or #JebBush would have won, you'd be saying the exact same thing today about that person.
Not to say that #Trump is 100% innocent BTW, if #JoeBiden should be prosecuted for illegally having classified documents, so should #Trump. It goes both ways.
First off, what’s up with all the hashtags? Your comment looks ridiculous and it’s harder to read with links every other word.
Second, MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain. He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse. Did you even read Art of the Deal? He’s an embarrassment to the country beyond his status as a disgraced politician.
You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to. This isn’t even getting into the likelyhood that he was selling said documents to foreign actors. Now there’s mounting evidence that he tried to cover it all up. That’s your man? That’s who you think should run the country?
> MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain.
You're just parroting #MSM talking points here, not proving that I'm wrong.
> He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse.
Then why was he so well liked while he was a businessman? Nobody hated him until the #MSM criticized him.
> You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to.
So? The law doesn't care; the criminal activity is having the documents, not refusing to return them or lying about having them.
If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all, you clearly are following the case about as much as Trump’s business history…as in… not paying attention at all.
> If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all
...I don't? He's on trial for many things.
I’m not parroting shit. Like I said, I’ve been following Trump’s shady dealings for 20 years. Clearly you haven’t.
He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.
> He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.
Do you have a source for this?
A source for what exactly? Public opinion?
You don’t have to @ me every time.
@glimse Yes. If it was public, you should be able to find, say three instances of that opinion being espoused.
Unless it was like a super secret public opinion that nobody said out loud?
@amerika @glimse Pretty sure that was pretty popular in #Russia, and served as the origins for the modern antisemitic conspiracy theories we see today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
You’re talking to a white supremicist.
Their site makes it clear.
That’s the reason they’re citing a racist conspiracy theory.
The mods won’t ban him though, because that’s the kind of user they wish to court.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I'm not sure if he's a supremacist, more likely a racial separatist/"race realist". Wouldn't be shocked if he's racist, but yeah #TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion is quite the deep cut, and his alt-right views are probably the only way he even knows what that is (I only know what that is when I started researching the origins of the #Israel v. #Palestine conflict and it came up as I was skimming #Wikipedia)
In any case, his alt right views don't exactly map to this conversation, so I'll allow it for now.
If lemmy.world wants to ban him, they probably can, but he's on annihilation.social, which is a different instance entirely.
The mods have the power to ban anyone.
Notably, they don’t ban the guy who hosts a blog with articles titled things like Being White: The Gradual Epiphany of a True Believer and thinks the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a true conspiracy.
I’ve been banned for some pretty stupid shit, but this guy is welcome. That should tell you everything you need to know about this community.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen Report it to the mods. I'm on #Mastodon and I think he's on #Pleroma, so there's nothing I can do.
But I'm a freedom of speech homie so I wouldn't complain about it too much; if the speech offends you, you should be able to block or mute him yourself on your end.
I have reported them.
The mods only care about banning people who make conservatives face reality.
They’re not going to ban this chode because they want him for a user.
@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I guess we'll see. It's very possible that it's a free speech community and they won't ban him, which is fine. He doesn't need to be banned.
I don’t make excuses for white supremicists.
Guess you do.
How the fuck is a “racial separatist” not a racist?
Gotta love how this community puts the full depravity of conservatism on display for everyone.
> I don’t make excuses for racists.
I don't either! I do try to understand them though. They walk among us, after all.
> How the fuck is a “racial separatist” not a racist?
They're still racist; the difference is that a white supremacist thinks that white people are better than other people, and racial separatists think that all races are equal, but should be segregated from each other.
Nobody cares.
Fuck off, racist POS.
@cunt @LookBehindYouNowAndThen the username checks out
Funny how you’re more charitable to this white supremicist’s views than you are for anyone to your left.
Last time we were having a discussion you misrepresented my views with every reply, but you’ve really dialed in the various flavors of racist, because those nuances are so important to understand.
Conservatives will ally with racists and fascists before they compromise with a lib.
> Funny how you’re more charitable to this white supremicist’s views than you are for anyone to your left.
This is an interesting take. You must not know me very well.
Have you seen my political commentary blacklist of bad faith actors? It's mostly people on the right.
https://social.teci.world/objects/a591d729-7dd8-4374-b9c7-a31b9f5e56e9
> Last time we were having a discussion you misrepresented my views with every reply
Which convo was this?
> Conservatives will ally with racists and fascists before they compromise with a lib.
Part of me wonders if I'm even a #Conservative anymore. I hate big government and a lot of them don't, and the #MAGA people are pretty embarrassing to boot.
@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen
> Conservatism is a philosophy
Fair enough; Conservatism is pretty broad so it can be as libertarian as it can be fascist.
I care too much about supporting small government and principles over people to want to associate too closely with the modern right, who I feel is increasingly okay with authoritarianism (look at their support of #DeSantis for example)
> We are realists, the Left are anti-realists.
That's kind of a childish way to view things.
@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen Examining political spheres of thought, I've been wondering if I'm not closer to #ConservativeLiberalism than #Conservatism itself.
@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen Possibly. My right wing social values will never change because the #Bible does, but I care most about the Y-axis on the #PoliticalCompass. Can't get down with #Libertarianism because that's too extreme for me, unfortunately
@amerika @LookBehindYouNowAndThen That's a different argument than the one you put forth though.
> I socialize with a lot of Leftists. At this point, Right and Left exist in different worlds.
You'd be surprised. #HorseshoeTheory is a thing, but I think there's also a sort of inverse #HorseshoeTheory where people on the left and right converge on what ordinarily would be centrism or liberalism, but is now considered right wing due to the shifting #OvertonWindow. #Destiny and #BillMaher are two really good examples of this.
@amerika@annihilatieon.social @glimse @realcaseyrollins
That's not how I see it. I used to be a leftist and I know for a fact that all their argumentation is based on ideologies, where an idea is more important than reality.
While Conservative ideas are based on experience and tradition rather than wishful thinking.
Also conservatives understand that if someone else is paying, they are not free.
I will never agree to any similarity between left and right. it's children's minds compared to grown ups.
My dad grew up in one of trumps dad’s buildings and both of them were scummy businessmen and terrible landlords, Trump sr was convicted of trying to keep black renters out of my dad’s building.
I know a lawyer and a metal fabricator who did work for him and he stiffed them both. The metal fabricator added what he called a “trump fee” for every job after that because trump would never pay the last bill, so he just increased the price of the previous ones.
The “mainstream media” may be bad at a lot of things, but they’re not pulling things out of the air here. Trump is a bad person, and there’s a mountain of evidence to support that if you want to look
Dude hashtags things because it gets copied to their mastodon and elevates their comments while failing to provide context for anyone following them on that platform.
Basically it’s an attempt to spread their mastodon posts, but only their side of the conversation so they look smart.
Im fine with letting them both burn. Maybe wed get a functional president next.