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Constitutional Conservatives can't wrap their heads around the fact that the "founding fathers" had no authority to bind the people alive at the time to their political whims with some made up document, let alone the generations that follow.

No understanding of consent or authority.

The State could put them in an iron cage for something they didn't do, and they'll continue to go on about how "the Constitution is the greatest document ever, we must support it!"

@eriner

The Federal Constitution is limited in what is allowed. 90% of what the gubmint does is unconstitutional.

The founding fathers did NOT bind the people to their whims. The Constitution is a confederation of States. we are the united STATES of America.

How people decide to live in thier geographic area called a State is up to them.

We need to end the abuse of the Constituion and follow it. This means encouraging interstate commerce and allowing for the DEFENSE of the members.

@Arthur_500

> but almost all of them are willing to die on Constitution Hill, despite their present circumstance.

I rest my case.

@eriner @Arthur_500 the civil war has more importance for how the country is actually run than that piece of parchment: just force.

@sun @Arthur_500 for real. Some states wanted to leave, and Abraham Lincoln informed them that this "voluntary union" will be held together with violence. :pepe_terror:

@eriner @Arthur_500 "perpetual union" was established "we hope this works out" verbiage of the era, not "you can never leave or we kill your kids".

@sun @eriner

Please study your history before you pontificate

@Arthur_500 @eriner I read the opinions of a bunch of constitutional scholars and I agreed with the one that provided receipts.
Matt Hamilton

@sun @Arthur_500 I don't think you two are even disagreeing with each other... :/

@eriner @Arthur_500 yeajh I think just a misunderstanding