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This cant be said enough... When i had a doctor come to my door asking if i had any masks to donate I had some choice words for that schmuck.

@freemo I think that banning health insurance could get rid of this problem overnight.

@realcaseyrollins

Ya know I never considered banning health insurance... and I was about to say that sounds idiotic... but as I try to type it i just keep going "he aint wrong".. if everyone had to pay cash people would be pissed as fuck at the rip off prices and might actually demand some change.

The problem is people dont know how to fix problems. So while they would demand change that demand would be "make it free for everyone!" and then we are right back at having insurance again.

@freemo It'd be the health care companies that'd actually need to make the change. They only charge so much because insurance covers 80% of costs. The vast majority of people can't afford the MSRPs of health care, so they'd either go without care or go to another country for care, greatly decreasing revenues in the health care sector. To turn things around, they would then need to bring down their prices so that they can get those customers back.

@realcaseyrollins

The proper change, of course, is that health companies actually come to meet a supply-demand curve... there are a few problems though.

1) as I pointed out people will demand the wrong kind of change, they wont hold healthcare responsible, they will just demand insurance back

2) Supply-demand and free market works great for anything where there is a reasonable supply-demand force. However the demand in healthcare is infinite because a person will (usually) give everything he owns to live just one more day. So healthcare is the one area where a free-market with minimal regulations or price fixing simply will not work against a supply-demand curve in any reasonable fashion.

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@freemo Part of me feels like that's what they're doing, they're selling products at the price that most customers + their health care providers are willing to pay.

I agree with you though that price fixing isn't the solution. I wasn't a fan of 's price caps when he instituted them, no matter how positive the effects of them were (although I was certainly happy for my friends who could get at lower prices)