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Nothing makes more sense?

@viber

"some people think 'nothing' created the universe"

who?

supaSirViber

@mk

What are your ideas on how the universe was created?

@viber

here's the thing about non-religious people.

we're fine to say: "i don't know. we'll eventually find out."

@mk

We'll find out for sure!

Some atheists are VERY sure of their beliefs, and also feel the need to evangelize.

@mk

Surely you are not saying Atheists never killed religious people in nasty ways?

@mk

Or maybe that Atheists are more moral than religious people?

@viber

i'd say that only authoritarian collectivists (collective > individuals) kill "for the common good".

@mk

Given your statements in this thread, it seems then you are arguing that believing in God makes a group of people more likely to "kill for the common good".

If that's the argument, it's fucking retarded.

@viber

it's not like..a conspiracy theorie..its fucking history.

the 7 crusades

First Crusade (1095-1099)
Second, (1147-1149)
Third, (1189-1192)
and Fourth Crusade (1202-1204)
Children's Crusade (1212)
Fifth Crusade (1228-1229) Crusade of Damietta (1217-1221)
Sixth Crusade (1248-1254)
Seventh/Last Crusade (1270)

@mk

Been here before brother, it's tired.

1. Both sides of those crusades believed in God.

2. Your next response will be that Communist countries were not actually Atheist.

@viber

1. thanks for proving my point.

2. communists are also authoritarian collectivists, because their system can't exist without a central authority.

and yes. they also killed hundreds of thousand of people "for the common good"

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@mk

It is completely rational to switch your arguments to fit your feelings.

They need your protection.

It's just a waste of time for me to try and follow along with them.

@viber

what do all of these have in common?

- tribes
- religions
- cults
- nations
- politial parties

a "us vs them"-mindset that's easily exploitable to hypermoralize the members into commiting violence.

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robert sapolsky: "when we think of the neighboring tribe as loathsome cockroaches."
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you asked: "Atheists are more moral than religious people?"

my answer: no, but individuals who reject group-think are...and these people are usually also atheists.

Mastodonmk (@mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)Attached: 1 image tribal mindset Robert M Sapolsky 'Disgust[..]insular cortex[..]mammal[..]insular cortex processes gustatory disgust[..]humans also activate it by thinking about something morally disgusting—social norm violations or individuals who are typically stigmatized in society[..]The insula activates when we eat a cockroach or[..]when we think of the neighboring tribe as loathsome cockroaches. As we’ll see, this is central to how our brains process “us and them.”' https://amzn.eu/53CbFBc

@viber

who are these "individuals who reject group-think"?

1. people who fought back against the nazi regime.

mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/11

2. people who are still fighting back against the covid-tyranny.

mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/11

@Zahadoom @viber

prove what? that the earth isn't the center of the universe?

easy..

the heliocentric-picture is prettier.

youtu.be/khIzr6610cQ?t=32

@mk @viber Huh?

Clearly the innate beauty of the Geocentric image can be seen here. Those with eyes to see can see it, and those with ears to hear will hear it.