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Nothing makes more sense?

@viber

"some people think 'nothing' created the universe"

who?

@mk

What are your ideas on how the universe was created?

@viber

here's the thing about non-religious people.

we're fine to say: "i don't know. we'll eventually find out."

@mk

We'll find out for sure!

Some atheists are VERY sure of their beliefs, and also feel the need to evangelize.

@mk

Surely you are not saying Atheists never killed religious people in nasty ways?

@mk

Or maybe that Atheists are more moral than religious people?

@viber

i'd say that only authoritarian collectivists (collective > individuals) kill "for the common good".

@mk

Given your statements in this thread, it seems then you are arguing that believing in God makes a group of people more likely to "kill for the common good".

If that's the argument, it's fucking retarded.

@viber

it's not like..a conspiracy theorie..its fucking history.

the 7 crusades

First Crusade (1095-1099)
Second, (1147-1149)
Third, (1189-1192)
and Fourth Crusade (1202-1204)
Children's Crusade (1212)
Fifth Crusade (1228-1229) Crusade of Damietta (1217-1221)
Sixth Crusade (1248-1254)
Seventh/Last Crusade (1270)

@viber

1. thanks for proving my point.

2. communists are also authoritarian collectivists, because their system can't exist without a central authority.

and yes. they also killed hundreds of thousand of people "for the common good"

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supaSirViber

@mk

It is completely rational to switch your arguments to fit your feelings.

They need your protection.

It's just a waste of time for me to try and follow along with them.

@viber

what do all of these have in common?

- tribes
- religions
- cults
- nations
- politial parties

a "us vs them"-mindset that's easily exploitable to hypermoralize the members into commiting violence.

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robert sapolsky: "when we think of the neighboring tribe as loathsome cockroaches."
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you asked: "Atheists are more moral than religious people?"

my answer: no, but individuals who reject group-think are...and these people are usually also atheists.

Mastodonmk (@mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)Attached: 1 image tribal mindset Robert M Sapolsky 'Disgust[..]insular cortex[..]mammal[..]insular cortex processes gustatory disgust[..]humans also activate it by thinking about something morally disgusting—social norm violations or individuals who are typically stigmatized in society[..]The insula activates when we eat a cockroach or[..]when we think of the neighboring tribe as loathsome cockroaches. As we’ll see, this is central to how our brains process “us and them.”' https://amzn.eu/53CbFBc

@viber

who are these "individuals who reject group-think"?

1. people who fought back against the nazi regime.

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2. people who are still fighting back against the covid-tyranny.

mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/11